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Pittler B Pattern Lathe - was this by
Milnes of Bradford, England?
- and a model of a Pittler lathe -

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How a Pittler lathe came to be stamped as manufactured by Henry Milnes, a maker of high-class machines tools from Bradford in Yorkshire is unknown, but the writer has encountered two such examples: the first, shown below, had the Milnes name stamped into the front face of the headstock while the second, of which no photographs exits, had a rather fine, cast bronze plate secured to the rear of the bed or headstock. The rest of the lathe - bed, carriage, tailstock and screwcutting arrangements is identical to a standard Pittler. As no known Milnes literature mentions the machine, it may be that the George Adams, the Pittler agent in London (with his panoptic involvement in all things precision) may have had a hand in its commissioning, or perhaps to repair a damaged or worn machine. Another oddity is the headstock, this being of the traditional backgear type, a design seemingly found on B2s all over Europe - but not in the UK.
There have been Pittler lathes made under  licience, with an knowledgeable enthusiast for the maker having examples by Rumpf,  Sondermann & Stier and Schulz - the Sondermann even has the date 1895 on a plate along with the Pittlers patent number 85. It appears that there were lots of  Pittler models that were never shipped to the UK with, for example, plenty of C3s  here but not the C or CII; a Belgium owner has a 5" centre height model with different headstock that must be a CII and is currently being restored. The facts surrounding the Milnes shall, forever it seems, remain an interesting mystery..

Below--a model Pittler Lathe.
About 10" long and very heavy for it's size because of the cast iron base. The centre height is about 1 5/8" I think and appears to be very old, perhaps dating before WW1.
In his articles on Pittler in the Model Engineer magazine, George Gentry said that six very small lathes were made for publicity, demonstration and advertising purposes, and reported that the centre height was about 2". As a 2" lathe was catalogued, he may have got the size wrong and this could be one of those..

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Story of Wilhelm von Pittler   Milnes Pittler   Pittler Factory

Accessories  Pittler literature for sale

Pittler B Pattern Lathe - was this by
Milnes of Bradford, England?
- and a model of a Pittler lathe -
email: tony@lathes.co.uk
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